ceiling. >> the debt ceiling, that even -- that makes me nervous. i'm twitching when i heard the words debt ceiling. stephen, do we think there's any more chance they're moving to at least some kinds of consensus of how we'll run the nation's books before we get to the debt ceiling? >> i'm not sure we are, actually. i think this budget was an ideological document -- notwithstanding -- >> wait. isn't that what it is? the president's mission statement, right? >> of course it is. no doubt about it. this is the president's statement. i worked for ronald reagan when we put our budgets. it's a statement of principle. the point i'm making is there's not a lot in here republicans are going to go say, oh, wonderful idea. we haven't even trauk talked about $1 trillion new taxes which republicans will reject out of hand. the most interesting thing that happened this week when the president proposed what i think is a fairly modest change to social security, oh, my gosh, these organizations on the left, i mean, we had cardiac arrest. and that makes me somewhat n